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Tyran Scorpi
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Posted - 2012.03.27 06:51:00 -
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Hybrid bonuses
Merlin Raptor Harpy Cormorant Moa Eagle Falcon Tengu Ferox Vulture Rokh
Missile bonuses
Condo Hero Kestre Crow Manticore Hawk Flycatcher Caracle Cerberus Onyx Rook Tengu Drake Nighthawk Raven Golem Widow
3 hybrid frigate < 6 missile frigate 1 hybrid destroyer = 1 missile destroyer 4 hybrid cruiser < 5 missile cruiser 2 hybrid battlecruiser = 2 missile battlecruiser 1 hybrid battleship < 3 missile battleship
This is the division of ship types before you take the naga into account. The number of hybrid ships is less than or equal to the number of caldari missile boats for a given hull size, therefore, the new battlecruiser needs to be a missile boat, or at least have the capability to utilize both weapon types like the tengu. |

Tyran Scorpi
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Posted - 2012.03.27 23:22:00 -
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Duchess Starbuckington wrote:stuff
Yes, I realize that the missile version would be useless in a gang/fleet, unless you were shooting structures with Torps... I would like to have both options available.
Duchess Starbuckington wrote: Heron - is a probing ship, the fact it has a missile bonus is purely incidental. Manticore - is a stealth bomber. All the stealth bombers have missiles, regardless of race. I don't see many threads from Minmatar whining about how their Hounds can't fit artillery, do you? Flycatcher - is a dictor, and the fact it's missile bonused makes no difference whatsoever to its role. Onyx - is a hictor, and the fact it's missile bonused makes no difference whatsoever to its role. Tengu - nice to see you listed this under both categories, missing the irony that if the Naga were made into dual missiles/hybrids, the missile variant would be worthless much like the hybrid Tengu is. Widow - is an ECM/jump bridge monkey, the fact it's missile bonused makes no difference whatsoever to its role.
Heron/manticore - I agree, I only included them to avoid the omg you missed something posts. Flycatcher/Onyx - They do happen to be dictors, but I also believe that they need to fix dictors so they can be used with the weapon systems they have bonuses for. Tengu - Yep, they need to fix the hybrid tengu as well. Widow - Yep, they need to fix black ops too.
Even if you remove the heron, manticore, and widow, my previous analysis stands unchanged. |

Tyran Scorpi
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Posted - 2012.03.28 21:11:00 -
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Duchess Starbuckington wrote: ... Umm, what? Damage dealing isn't their job. They have only token weapon systems as they do just fine at bubbling/infinipointing. If they were doing decent DPS, they'd have to have compromised somewhere on the "interdictor" part of their description.
The only reason you dont see caldari dictors fitting missiles is due to using up all their powergrid on tank modules. I want to be able to fit the weapons systems those ships have bonuses for, while still being able to perform the role adequately. DPS doesnt even come into it, I dont really care about the DPS, I just want to be able to fit the weapons in the first place.
Duchess Starbuckington wrote: You have no shortage of structure bashers available. Including the blaster/rail Naga, in fact.
I am not arguing that, all I am saying is that I want to have the option of using torps on the naga. |

Tyran Scorpi
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:36:00 -
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Duchess Starbuckington wrote: Flycatcher - fitting weapons to it is a waste of money anyway.
That is a matter of opinion.
Duchess Starbuckington wrote: Yeah, that's an awesome justification.
*shrug* I was bored when I joined this thread, I want one seems as good a justification as any. |

Tyran Scorpi
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Posted - 2012.03.29 13:51:00 -
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Rimase wrote:
- Amarr: Lasers
- Minmatar: Projectiles
- Gallente: Drones & Hybrids
- Caldari: Missiles & Hybrids.
amirite? 
Primary/Secondary Amarr: Lasers/Missiles Minmatar: Projectiles/Missiles Gallente: Hybrids/Drones Caldari: Missiles/Hybrids
I think this is slightly more accurate. |
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